https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/florida-man-arrested-for-constructive-possession-of-an-sbr.472404/page-2, Hello guys its me Jesus Amador with the so called illegal sbr. Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 916310108 Buy Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban: GunBroker is . Law requiring the removal of ice and snow from car to be voted on by Pennsylvania Senate andHouse. B_W I thought that Thompson Center v. BATFE did away with the doctrine of Constructive Possession. - Estate Planning Advice; I briefly read about the Thompson Center case and it seems to me that that ruling hinged on the fact that the parts involved had legitimate alternate uses that didnt involve NFA applications. The receiver housing has a proprietary claw-rail mounting system that permits the attachment of a standard Heckler & Koch quick-detachable scope mount (also used with the G3, HK33 and G3SG/1 ). What would be a good buy price? A HECKLER KOCH SP89 pistol is currently worth an average price of $2,962.31 new . Mechanically excellent. Register a free account today to become a member! - Indoor/Outdoor Range Implementation; and The conversion consist of a beautiful alloriginal HK-SP89 Date Code (KD) with a New B&T 3-Lug PDW Barrel Factory Threaded in the Popular 1/2X28 with a Thread-Protector, Semi-Auto Bolt Carrier Modified for Full-Auto, Combat/Flapper Magazine Release, New German HK"K" Grip, New German HK PDW Folding Stock Marked HK, Receiver RemarkedMP5-N. I handle cases at the Federal and State level for both FFLs and individuals. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Change). Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! What is a HECKLER KOCH SP89 Pistol Worth? ). Yes, HK did not switch to a two letter date code until the late 70s. - Gun/NFA Trusts; and - License to Carry Firearms Denials; Anyone out there that would like to help in this matter not because of me, but because if you are SICK and tired off all these power hungry cops screwing with your right feel free to contact me at (239)961-4208 if you want to read the liberal BS version on how it happend google Jesus Amador Lee County. Unfortunately I am unable to find any online evidence of this cases ultimate disposition. JavaScript is disabled. Thats what i figured , i was hoping around 5k. Use of the new SP5K as a short barreled rifle host will require you to use some U.S. made parts to be legal. By the way its posted back on floridaguntrader.com if any one wanted to see the picture of it. Just stumbled upon this article. There is no easy answer, as it will depend on a number of factors. By Stamped date code ic 7.62x51. Will come with 2 HK 30 round IJ date coded magazines in an HK magazine clamp. LEXIS 11886, *6. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! The demand of used HECKLER KOCH SP89 pistol's has fallen 1 units over the past 12 months. 816537013310, Code: MWI-HZ-689GA-MWMI-SP89M. Your local FFL must be willing to accept shipments from Individuals, orI'll have to add on the fee my local FFL would charge to handle the transaction and shipping from here. Is an estate entitled to an economicstimulus, Child Custody - What parents should know in a nutshell. JavaScript is disabled. What can i say i am a public servant i push and push against these stupid make shift laws so others dont have to. Steel pre-ban magazines included: 1 - 15 rd, 5 - 30 rd curved, 2 - 30 rd straight with magazine pouch. Buy Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban: GunBroker is the largest seller of Semi Auto Pistols Pistols Guns & Firearms All: 916310108. The receiver was refinished in HK Black and the Barrel, Magazine Release & Bolt Carrier received a New Phosphate finish. Did they not have a model name for them prior to importing them? . So, if I owned a H&k sp89 I could not own but not install a forgrip without the $5 tax stamp? How about $4,250 shipped to 32202, Jax, FL,? All this work was done ty Terry Dyer. Posts: 15,713 . Well folks my name is Jesus Amador, you out there might just know me as Digitalage03, i recently met up with a prospected buyer for my sp89 clone pistol, well turns out the guy was a undercover cop and the reason he wanted to meet up with me is because he saw that i was selling the pistol with a stock as one of the accessories, which by the way it was never on the gun and it is legal to own, you just cant install it without a tax stamp, well anyways once i met up with him not only did i get slammed to the ground and had about 7 armed cops (one of which) had a loaded 12ga to the back of my head while on the ground handcuffed they also illegally searched my car and even had the balls to drive off in my car from private property to a public place so they can tear thru it before the towtruck came and got , Well anyone here that know thier laws about this know they are in serious trouble, considering that the basis of all this is a misinformed sherriff called Mike Scott. US v. Turnbough, 1997 U.S. App. I often wonder how the ATF could hold the opinion that a person who owns a semi-auto AR15, along with a post 86 DIAS (drop in auto sear) would be in possession of a unregistered machine gun. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Come join the discussion regarding HK pistols, long arms, NFA arms, HK accessories, HK history and trivia and more. Copyright 1999-2023, Sturmgewehr.com and Respective Members why is this so differently named? Email if you'd like more or specific pictures of the gun. IANAL, but based on my understanding of the Thompson Center case, he might have been OK had he had a 16+ Barrel also since he could have then constructed a legal rifle (with foregrip and stock). So say I walk into my local gun store and purchase a SIG516 rifle, and a SIG516 pistol. 277 Location South shore Sep 13, 2021 #1/14 Here is a rare piece I'm looking to trade from my collection is a mint unfired H&k sp89 date coded with KA stamped from sterling West Virginia, gun comes with original shipping box the pistol was shipped in, styrofoam box , all manuals and warranty cards, 1 15rd dated mag. Excellent to very good condition pre-ban, IK date coded, all German HK SP89 pistol. Specifications for Midwest Industries SP89 Clones Mil-Spec Top Rail Handguard, M-Lok Compatible: . It is way too easy to violate if you are not careful, especially when you include constructive possession., Such BS. - Warning Letters and Hearings; Constructive Possession exists when a person knowingly has the power and intention at a given time to exercise dominion and control over an object, either directly or through others. Appears to be fired very little and the finish is in overall great condition with no major signs of wear or scratches. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! Willing to sell outright. Remove the words NO and SPAM from the email address. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Thread starter AGG; Start date . Made in Germany by Heckler & Koch. ArchonArmory There is a Very Light Selector Mark, Besides That, Not a Mark, Nic, Scratch, or Idiot Mark on it. Email me at wcNObrowning@hotSPAMmail.com Compare (0) 1 item has been added. I know you are looking for a trade. Trigger Groups 0-1. If you were to sell it how much do you want for it? View all posts by Joshua Prince, Esq. He was probably selling it for heroin and not cash. I understand we want what we want! Or does constructive possession only apply to loose parts laying around, not parts of other firearms? . This page is intended as a guide to identify the various H&K manufactured MP5 variants. He would not even talk to me when i requested to speak to him yet he was more than eager to talk when a signed order from the judge went on their desk when it came to retrieval of property. But other than that 3weeks after the arrest charges where dissmissed and the gun is back in our possession with stock, kgrip and all, man was that detective PISSED!! Were Hiring Competent, Pro-RightsAttorneys! Pennsylvania Announces 2021 Average WeeklyWage. Comes standard on all . Of course time found cheaper ways of getting things done but you have to appreciate the care the P9s received. NFA is something we all have to be super careful about. Only Surrender Your Forced Reset Trigger (FRT) to ATF Under Protest! I have my 07/02 licenses so I put the proper pack in it and have never been sorry about the expense. eh if your al capone and cant get you for murder they might try. Staff member. At both the state and federal levels, I represent FFLs and SOTs throughout Pennsylvania and the US regarding: Heckler & koch 4 hk factory magazine.32 acp (7.65mm) 8 rounds early date (#7) this mag is for a. Asking $5200. Used Sold [8] New Sold [41] No Samples to Show. Please don't IM / PM. Come join the discussion regarding HK pistols, long arms, NFA arms, HK accessories, HK history and trivia and more. By Register a free account today to become a member! This item is in the category "Sporting Goods\Hunting\Gun Parts\Pistol". I also had an article published on Fee Disputes in Workers Compensation cases in the Widener Law Journal, Volume 18, No. You are using an out of date browser. so much for his 30+ man 2 week investigation on the matter. So in short i will have thier ass, any suggestions out there? Id. My bet was when he sold it to the guy there was audio and video of the whole thing. Well Chris Carlson, we dont appreciate our rights being infringed, so Why do you think we should have laws where cops should be busting drug dealers? 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The Second Amendment: Enforcing the HellerDecision. Manufactured in 1990. Its in the original box with foam and manual. This information has been redacted in accordance with Title 18 U.S. Code 798. 1 -15 rd magazine 2 -30 rd magazines 1 Loader 1 Magazine coupler, all items are HK factory and in mint condition. The seller is "321kustom" and is located in Long Beach, California. Asking for a friend! Yes, paid the $4250. HK Date Codes. March 12, 2021 in NFA Market Board Share 1 Absolutely Mint Example - Only Test Fired 2-3 Mags Includes both FA clipped & pinned lower (no trigger pack) & the original SP89 Semi Lower Housing (with semi trigger pack) 9mm Caliber Includes a 15rd HK Magazine Registered as an SBR (short barreled rifle) On Form 3 in NC. A video showing what to look for when buying real hk mp5 magazines. What I am after is that SP5K PDW that already has the paddle mag, 3 lug barrel, and a factory warranty. (LogOut/ COVID-19 and Workers Compensation SoleRemedy? Will come with 2 HK 30 round IJ date coded magazines in an HK magazine clamp. HK SP89 The gun comes as pictured in a HK Factory case with original user manual.. No re-print! what does the '89' stand for? Tony will chime in here shortly. - Challenges to Erroneous PICS Denials; No, the first SP89s were IK Date Coded ('89). Powered by Invision Community, HK SP89 excellent condition with box and laser* price dropped*, Copyright 1999-2023, Sturmgewehr.com and Respective Members. Brand: Heckler & Koch Posted in If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. 1; No Samples to Show. B.s. Description: HK SP89 Like New with 2 clips (30-39) and 2 clip (15) Condition: Used, As New Brand: HK Caliber: 9mm (other) Item #: 931026391 SKU: SP89 Location: CA Trades Accepted: No Time Left: (Auction Ended) Shipping Notes: Buyer to pay for shipping HK SP89 only used once. Not sure of round count. Here's a link to an online gallery of pictures: http://postimg.org/gallery/3356xvhwc/. Were the implications of that decision more narrow than that or is the DOJ just ignoring it? Its inherent accuracy makes it an excellent choice for target shooting and small-game hunting. RIAC believes that this website is accessible to the widest possible audience pursuant to the guidelines of the Americans with Disability Act. HK Date Codes Date codes are the next thing that cause a little confusion for new HK owners. Last edited: Dec 19, 2009. They should have been charged with battery and attempted murder too. I am looking at buying this P9s, by this pix would you assume it was made in 1973? HK Proshop : For the Heckler and Koch Enthusiast. William, please email me: wcNObrowning@hotSPAMmail.com. and federal law is not violated. Pretty simple. This is not how free men are treated. Includes manual, warranty card, original box, and all the magazines pictured. but was worth every penny to me. 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Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 2023 Rock Island Auction Company. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***. Joined Nov 11, 2020 Posts 6,023 Location Alabama. hk pistol manual Addeddate 2019-12-17 04:17:47 Foldoutcount 0 Identifier hksp89p Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t6f273r8s Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) If the stock and grip were kept at his home residence, and the gun were kept at his work or somewhere else so that the able to be assembled parts were at two separate locations, would this avoid the constructive possession problem? On August 27, 2009, Jesus Amador, Jr., was arrested by an undercover officer when he sought to sell his Heckler and Koch SP89 pistol. PRE-BAN SP-89 MP5K Rare! NEW & UNFIRED SINCE CONVERSION INVESTMENT GRADE HK-MP5KN-PDW 9MM SEAR READY SHORT BARREL RIFLE BY TDYER GUNSMITH. Pennsylvania Changes Rules of No-FaultDivorce, ATTENTION: The 9th Circuit amends the 2nd Amendment, Joshua Prince of Prince Law Offices, P.C. Very interesting read. Have a mint condition first year IK SP89. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. On August 27, 2009, Jesus Amador, Jr., was arrested by an undercover officer when he sought to sell his Heckler and Koch SP89 pistol. HK Proshop : For the Heckler and Koch Enthusiast. Being a Gunsmith Pros and Cons of this Popular Profession. SF, James Heckler and Koch Certified Armorer (Heckler and Koch) I decided to concentrate my legal practice on firearms law not only because I am a shooter and firearms enthusiast, but also to ensure that our inalienable Right to Keep and Bear Arms is never encroached upon. Was owned by dudes father previously. With this pre-ban SP89, you can make it an all German short barreled rifle. Like the model numbering scheme, the date codes are a 2 letter code and indicate the year of manufacture: Therefore, if your HK91 shows a date code of IH, it was made in 1987. http://www.facebook.com/TeufelshundTactical. - ATF Compliance Inspections; Scarce Original Pre-Ban Heckler & Koch SP89 Semi-Automatic Pistol Auction Date: May 6, 2017 Estimated Price: $ 3,750 - $ 5,500 Price Realized: Details Scarce Original Pre-Ban Heckler & Koch SP89 Semi-Automatic Pistol Manufacturer: Heckler & Koch Model: Sp89 Type: Pistol Gauge: 9x19mm Barrel: 4 1/2 inch round Finish: black Grip: plastic Stock: The guns manufacturing date Code KD indicates that the gun was made in 1993 at HK Oberndorf Germany. Use of the new SP5K as a short barreled rifle host will require you to use some U.S. made parts to be legal. :biggrin: Tony If you want an all German MP5K PDW host short barrel rifle, this is what you need to do it. The atf needs to be dismantled. Effect of Death on a Divorce: Can the Spouse take under the Decedents Will or is the SpouseLimited? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It was an offer I couldn't refuse but my bank account protested so used my good ole credit card no wonder my credit score has dropped! Its in the original box with foam and manual. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.

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