The date that seared itself into their collective memory is April 24, 1980. McRaven grew up with war stories. Theyre all kind of crammed into this small room with General Brad Webb, who was my liaison to the White House at the time. ", Does killing high-value targets make sense as a recipe to defeat al-Qaeda? He bought them. Retired Navy Adm. William H. McRaven has written a new book called, "The Hero Code: Lessons Learned from Lives Well Lived." McRaven knows about heroic deeds, having directed the 2011 U.S . So I saw some young SEALs standing nearby. 3 commander twice a year. I kind of tumble through the parachute. STEVE INSKEEP, BYLINE: If I don't mistake this, your boss, Admiral Eric Olson, kind of bypassed a form that would say whether you were physically fit or not. 10 years after the operation that brought Osama bin Laden to justice, President Obama and Admiral Bill McRaven, the commander of the special operations force. You will feel a sense of pride, and that same pride will greet you at . MCRAVEN: I dont know, as a young boy, whether I thought I would follow in my fathers footsteps, what I knew was I loved the camaraderie. But that particular day, I actually had a meeting down in Qatar. And so I recognize that shots are being fired. It absolutely was not. What kind of intelligence did we get off the target? and will give you a small sense of pride, and it will encourage you to do another task and another and another. McRaven had to watch the American response on television as he recovered. Once there were U.S. commando units in World War II. And Maybe the World . The good news is, as I fell a couple hundred feet or a thousand feet or so, the parachute finally opened. Long before the bin Laden raid, the special operators came to believe they had rebuilt themselves as a stealthy, lethal and strategically potent military force. And if its any indication from the people that have talked to me since that speech, I think its of some value to getting your day started right. I said, hey, son, how tall are you? Thornton is a former Navy SEAL that was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions during a mission in the Vietnam War. He also led the . What do we need to do next? "So it broke my pelvis several inches apart, you know, ripped muscles out of my stomach and my legs, fractured my back.". to meet with the CENTCOM commander. Toward the end, with the assault team moving from room to room, McRaven stepped unexpectedly away from the screen. Marcinko rented Mercedes sedans with Navy funds, a friend of McRaven's says, "just because he could." Tell me about the impact that Moki Martin had on you. But he was not going to have outside contact with any of his former Iraqi leaders. The story did not end there. . Admiral, youve led sailors through harrowing missions. But, you know, I think leaders know how to recognize other leaders. Im ok with that. And every day that I went in, he tried to engage me in a conversation. Admiral William McRaven, now retired, thought commanding the operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaida, would be the crowning achievement of his 37 years as a Navy SEAL."I . But after SEAL training, we were stationed at the same team and we became very close friends. MCRAVEN: You know, I think the military guys - what I know is, you know, we go where the nation asks us to go, and we do what the nation requires us to do. You had 60 million dollars for a helicopter, the one we had lost on the raid, and you didnt have ten dollars for a tape measure? And as Ive told folks, it was just the right amount of levity, just at the right time to kind of lower the stress in the room. What happened was the down blast from the helicopter hit this 18 foot high wall, created a vortex, kind of a vacuum over the blades, caused the helicopter to lose lift. And if by chance you have a miserable day, you will come home to a bed that is made, that you made. And you write that you, quote, had an obligation, both morally and legally to keep him safe. "We do raids. I said, hey, son, how tall are you? It obviously had a lot of political risk with it, and I dont want to minimize the risk. I can see it on the overhead surveillance. The family including his two older sisters moved to Texas while William was in elementary school and settled in San Antonio. By the time I landed back in Baghdad, the force was moving towards the target and within, you know, within an hours time, the Armys special operations guys that were working for me had had, in fact, captured Saddam Hussein. The first of Admiral McRaven's 10 lessons is: start your day with one successful task completed, such as making your bed, and you will find the motivation to tackle others. She was seriously injured in a parachute accident. There are costs. In a new book from TIME, Special Ops: The Hidden World of America's Toughest Warriors, international editor Jim Frederick reports on the secret world of the U.S. military units. When McRaven jumped he found himself falling at 125 MPH and hitting the parachute of another, who had deployed his chute too soon. And never once, never once in all those years have I heard Moki Martin complain about his lot in life. It obviously had a lot of political risk with it, and I dont want to minimize the risk. Each chapter of Make Your Bed provides more context and stories for each lesson from the original speech. Will one of those hundred people be the person that cures cancer? What I would offer is I think when he finally realized that he no longer had his palaces, he no longer had his generals, he no longer had his handmaidens, he went from being pompous and arrogant to frankly, just being, you know, a tired, corrupt old man. MCRAVEN: Yeah, I couldnt hear any of that. I don't know whether I've been dazed. I mean, there were risks every time we came close to the Pakistani border or crossed the Pakistani border, the Pakistanis were not concerned at all about engaging us. MCRAVEN: Yeah, he wasn't in a real good position to negotiate. ), "The President was at all times presidential," he says. I knew that there would have to be some sort of follow on action against Al-Qaeda. He was later memorialized in an eponymous film starring Tom Hanks. But it was pretty clearly bin Laden. Did you have a moment of relief at that point? Image: Wikipedia.org. On Sept. 11, 2001, McRaven was recovering at home in Southern California from a freak parachute accident that had nearly killed him four months earlier, crushing his back and pelvis. You wrote, quote, as long as I could wiggle my toes, I was going to stay a SEAL. You share the story of Moki Martin, the Vietnam era SEAL, who was partially paralyzed from a head-on bike accident. Well, the mission wasnt over yet. "Everybody will try to fix all evils with a success, but that only lasts until you screw something up," Cartwright says. Unsure of his altitude or even where he was, he still had the frame of mind to reach for his ripcord, and pulled it. In fact, we had a plan with what we were going to do with bin Laden if we captured him. As commander of Naval Special Warfare Group One, Captain McRaven was leading a 1,000-foot freefall exercise in the summer of 2001, when an accident occurred that could easily have cost him his life. And they were going out every night, you know, trying to stop suicide bombers. I wonder what you think we can do to convince more people to make their beds every morning? We had a helicopter with an optical ball on it that was providing our ISR, our video coverage, if you will. And that was pretty evident. You were on a helicopter leaving Baghdad and you suddenly wanted to turn it around. You know, when we first captured Saddam, he was pompous. You know, when we stood up an all volunteer force, I remember thinking initially, well, this will never work. All the men went off to World War Two, and then they came back and rebuilt the country. Now, I would offer that I use the word premonition, but it was probably the fact that my brain was connecting the dots. Did you have a sense that you would follow in your fathers footsteps? So Rob ONeill and his teammate, when they came up Again, there were no helmet cams. When after a bad parachute accident McRaven stoically refused pain medication, he writes that "the imposing face of . The zeal and the desire to serve is not present to the extent that it was several years ago. McRaven recovered and rose up the ranks. But the fact of the matter is, I didnt want to engage with him. I had been talking to the leader of the Army Task Force. Yeah, it was interesting. Then, as commandos set explosive charges around the wounded aircraft: "We're going to destroy the helicopter.". Again, this was 2003 so the technology wasnt quite as sophisticated as it is today. But having been through these missions before, what I always know is, you know, you really have to sit down with the operators. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. Bush famously kept a list of al-Qaeda leaders in his Oval Office desk drawer and drew an X over each face as the target was captured or killed. President George W. Bush had asked Downing to inaugurate a new position as Deputy National Security Adviser for Combatting Terrorism. What do we need to do next? Duty is among the virtues that you write about in the hero code. And so what we had to do pretty quickly was to make sure he understood that he was a prisoner of the United States and we were going to treat him well. What were you seeing? It's a lesson Admiral William H. McRaven (retired) learned after a parachute accident that left him bedridden for months. . INSKEEP: You tell story after story after story in this book. There was always an understanding that it was about doing what was right for the country. INSKEEP: You refer to remembering this incident, this kindness of effectively overlooking the regulations, you think, and how you behaved later as a commander, as the wars began in Iraq and Afghanistan. But having been through these missions before, what I always know is, you know, you really have to sit down with the operators. And Ive seen it in this current generation, the millennials and the Gen Z. HOOVER: In 2003, you were the commander of Task Force 714 in Iraq. Admiral McRaven, in an inspiring speech, addressed the Class of 2015 at West Point to celebrate 500th Night. HOOVER: In your account of the rescue. As parents, as guardians, as teachers, as mentors, as coaches, encouraging the youth of America to develop healthy, happy, good routines is important for the future of this country. And I think he was probably glad I didn't ask him. So anybody that claims that theyve got a helmet cam video, nobody was wearing helmet cams. The conversation was . By way of example, O'Connor recounted a story told by Navy SEAL Adm. (retired) Bill McRaven on St. Patrick's Day in Savannah, Georgia, at a Hibernians Society dinner, "a few years back." (Full . and a grotesque 2001 skydiving mishap that separated his pelvic muscles from the bone. And he raised his hands, and he says, you know, I'm Saddam Hussein, the president of Iraq, and I'm here to negotiate. How was it that you came to be inside Iraq, though, on the day that Saddam Hussein was captured? I mean, it showed that we as Americans can do the hard things and do them well. That was a day that I think motivated all of America to go forth and realize that we had to bring justice to bin Laden, to bring justice to Al-Qaeda and to do what we felt was right for the country. He's sure he would have surrendered to self-pity and . I mean, he was, to me, the gold standard in Navy SEALs. There was something about the new intelligence, something about the confidence of the intelligence, something about everything. NPR's Steve Inskeep talks to retired Adm. William McRaven, who may be best-known as the Navy SEAL commander who oversaw the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, about his new memoir. Im absolutely ok with that. Admiral McRaven has since retired from the military and is now the chancellor of University of Texas. Once there was a President who called for building up the Green Berets in the same speech, in 1961, that called for landing a man on the moon. So you visited his room every day to speak with the doctor on guard. But new leaders always stepped in. And youve probably seen the iconic photo from Pete Souza. Retired Admiral William McRaven speaks Wednesday January 10, 2018 at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland. Michael Thornton is one of a handful of Navy SEALs that have been awarded the Medal of Honor. What were you feeling in those moments? But the fact of the matter is, I didnt want to engage with him. Credits. And I certainly didn't make it to where I was as a result of my own wonderful talents. Taking Apart al-Qaeda The guy stomped around on the floor and found this trapdoor, if you will. So I reflect back on that 10 years ago and Im just proud to have been a small part of it. We must fight terrorist networks, and all those who support their efforts to spread fear around the world, using every instrument of national power diplomatic, economic, law enforcement, financial, information, intelligence, and military.". Richard Marcinko, the hard-charging founding commander of Navy SEAL Team 6, the storied and feared unit within an elite commando force that later . His father, a career Air Force officer, was stationed at Pope Air Force Base, now known as Pope Field, part of Fort Bragg. McRaven: He went from being pompous and arrogant to frankly, just being, you know, a tired, corrupt old man. MCRAVEN: Yeah, it was actually a C-130. They just know me as the make your bed guy. I need to go personally identify the remains before I can kind of come back and tell you for certain its bin Laden. We put the body bag on the hangar floor and its a rubberized body bag. You had 60 million dollars for a helicopter, the one we had lost on the raid, and you didnt have ten dollars for a tape measure? And as Ive told folks, it was just the right amount of levity, just at the right time to kind of lower the stress in the room. TOM HANKS: Four skiffs carrying armed men. For most of the past decade, McRaven hunted down high-value targets overseas. "One of the things we made clear to the President and the national leadership was, This is what we do," he told TIME. So I reached for my rip cord, pulled the rip cord, and the pilot chute comes out of the back of the parachute. Billions of dollars and the labor of countless men and women had led to that day. . Will they be the next president or prime minister of Iraq? . So I think all of those kind of clicked in my mind. I mean, if thats not service, I dont know what is. The drill was to jump at 13,000 feet and once you dropped to 5,500 feet, you pulled your ripcord. Making your bed as easy to do. At the time, ST-6 was commanded by the legendary (and infamous) Richard . So he didnt know my rank or my name. Every particular of his missions remains classified. Take a look. Not your color, not your ethnic background, not your education and not your social status. Just like that, it was over. It's one of the tales he recounts in his new memoir, titled "Sea Stories: My Life In Special Forces" (ph). Over the next two years, McRaven became principal author of Bush's National Strategy for Combating Terrorism. He was a Vietnam vet. With her father by her side, she laughed off the injury like it was a scratch. You know, Ive heard you say that you are the quote biggest fan of the millennial generation and generation and Gen Z. What were you feeling in those moments? But when we were in training, he did not hesitate to pick me out of a crowd and turn me into a sugar cookie, as we say, where you roll around in the sand, and that kind of good natured harassment on a routine basis. And he became the overall commander of the US Special Operations Command, the rest is history. Did you actually ever think that he would be captured alive? He said, well sir Im six two. Now, a principle of democracy is, for every right there is a duty. The president thanks us for the mission and then reaches behind the presidents desk and hands me a plaque. McRaven has a long, storied history with the military. The Theory and Practice of Special Ops If you want to change the world, start off by making your bed. The mishap happened when Chief . And was in charge of SEAL Team Six during Neptunes Spear, the daring operation that took out Osama Bin Laden. I need to go personally identify the remains before I can kind of come back and tell you for certain its bin Laden. We put the body bag on the hangar floor and its a rubberized body bag. INSKEEP: How have people in the military that you have known dealt with the reality that they put their lives on the line, in some places lost arms or legs, for this purpose that turned out to be false? MCRAVEN: Well, the mission wasnt over yet. And then. And on the plaque is a Home Depot tape measure. Admiral William McRaven commanded the Special Forces who captured Saddam Hussein. McRaven: Basic SEAL training was a lifetime of challenges crammed into six months. I mean, if thats not service, I dont know what is. His story with the near fatal jump accident and, before that, the ignominious loss of his first command fit the narrative of setback and redemption in the special-operations community writ large. According to Shin Min Daily News, the motorcyclist allegedly sustained fatal injuries . But again, to your point, I had a moral and legal obligation to make sure that we took good care of him. I had been talking to the leader of the Army Task Force. In April, a month before the bin Laden raid, Obama tapped McRaven for his fourth star and nominated him to lead the U.S. Special Operations Command. I never asked him the specific details. The potency of that image may depend on making sure the triumph in Abbottabad is not succeeded by another Desert One or Black Hawk down. "He was almost like the voice of Walter Cronkite, completely calm," says Michael Leiter, who was present as director of the National Counterterrorism Center. They just know me as the make your bed guy. HOOVER: This past May marked 10 years since the historic and heroic mission that you orchestrated, Admiral, what is it like for you to watch President Obama say those words now, 10 years later? So whenever people begin to lose hope about the future of the country and whether or not the men and women will continue to serve, I think weve seen this movie before. . HOOVER: Did you have a moment of relief at that point? Distance?. Suffice to say, I'm not sure whatever happened to that paperwork, but I continued on in the service, and some things are better left unasked. HOOVER: Admiral William McRaven, welcome back to Firing Line for a special edition episode honoring Independence Day. William Harry McRaven (born November 6, 1955) is a retired United States Navy four-star admiral who served as the ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM) from August 8, 2011 to August 28, 2014. But it was a relatively straightforward mission in terms of the first part of it. We have had a lot of times in the course of the last 20 years where we thought we had the right individual and then we get them back and we look at everything from their fingerprints to their DNA and we find out its the wrong guy. And that little bit of levity kind of helped me through the rest of the night. I didnt think much of it. None had the full . If you make your bed every morning, you will have accomplished the first task of the day. I think he still felt that he would come back into power. McRaven: He went from being pompous and arrogant to frankly, just being, : The first people I want to thank are the SEALs. This is a disturbing phenomenon to me because I dont believe our democracy long range is going to work unless theres an attitude in our society and particularly among our young, that they have an obligation of service. I guess he did.". Take us inside that closet as you watched your SEALS enter Pakistan and clear the compound floor by floor. You were on a helicopter leaving Baghdad and you suddenly wanted to turn it around. William H. McRaven. With her father by her side, she laughed off the injury . . We had a helicopter with an optical ball on it that was providing our ISR, our video coverage, if you will. A lucky break came his way, it seemed, in 1982, two years after the hostage-rescue debacle. NPR's Steve Inskeep talks to retired Adm. William McRaven, who may be best-known as the Navy SEAL commander who oversaw the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, about his new memoir. And the reason that I am so impressed with this generation, because the 9/11 generation, these young men and women that signed up after September 11th, that raised their hand and said, Im going to join the military, knew that they were taking on the risks, knew that they would probably go to war. "As you see, we have a helicopter down," McRaven said, expressionless. Do you mind recounting it? "He walked again, which was amazing," sister Nan recalls. It was an ideal post for a cerebral commando whose body needed mending. (See TIME's 2008 Person of the Year: Barack Obama. Now available in bookstores everywhere, or go to time.com/specialops to order your copy today. By Barton Gellman. And now I'm tumbling out of control towards the ground. MCRAVEN: Oh, absolutely. So I grabbed Hank and I said, Hank, turn the plane around; we got to get back to Baghdad. Marcinko fired the 27-year-old McRaven after a year. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, // A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. Four-star Admiral William McRaven shares stories of heroism from his service to America. From there he began an extraordinary rise, moving rapidly through command and operational roles. HOOVER: Admiral McRaven, on this Independence Day weekend, thank you for your service and thank you for sharing your stories from your recent books, Hero Code, Sea Stories and Make Your Bed. Well, because I was tumbling, the pilot chute came out and wrapped around one leg, and then another part of the parachute called the riser came out and wrapped around my other leg. And even with that giant beard he had, it didnt take long for us to realize that we had the right guy. Tell me about that moment and what you heard come through the radio after that. And I took the opportunity to call up my boys and say, you know, my daughter was with us and explained it to her as well, that her life was about to change for dad. McRaven oversaw the 2011 Navy SEAL raid in Pakistan that killed al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. In 2001, McRaven was hospitalized after a parachute accident "kind of . And then. INSKEEP: Admiral William H. McRaven is author of "Sea Stories: My Life In Special Operations." I mean, it showed that we as Americans can do the hard things and do them well. "They went through a period of appearing more like cowboys, a period of 'tried but didn't quite make it,' " said retired Marine general James Cartwright, who was vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff when the raid took place. Published Dec. 27, 2021 Updated Dec. 31, 2021. I didnt think much of it. As the chief executive officer of the UT System, Chancellor McRaven oversees 14 institutions that educate 221,000 students and employ 20,000 faculty and more than 80,000 health care professionals, researchers and staff. on. WILLIAM H MCRAVEN: And all of a sudden, I realize the guy to the left is underneath me. Of course, as we began to come in to target the one helicopter loses lift as it got over the target. They are concerned about these things. In a special edition celebrating Independence Day, four-star Admiral William H. McRaven shares stories of heroism from his 37 years of service to America, including details behind the capture of Saddam Hussein and the killing of Osama bin Laden. US Navy Admiral William H. McRaven speaking at UT Austin's 2014 commencement. And you think that contributed to his decline in custody? But he was not going to have outside contact with any of his former Iraqi leaders. As you point out. 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